Dw Mr. Darkness I'm pro at 3D skyboxes now =) I might also have stuff after the bridge as well, but probably not as i have to do the interiors for all these buildings first and areaportals and shit Well. I hope you remember that you should make all the objects in the 3d skybox func_detail? Its important to optimise your map, or else skybox might be laggy a bit. Yeh I know that, but to date I haven't wanted to use a any brush based skybox stuff. I most likely will in this one. Wait what. You mean you wont do a road in (and into) 3d skybox? I'm not sure yet, the road that goes under the bridge will probably be blocked of or something. I may even make the bridge collapsed with some traffic fallen off it.