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By F1MADKILLER · Posted
as Nick (vulpy) resolved this moving it to processed -
By F1MADKILLER · Posted
I am locking this now, and moving it to processed, as it's resolved due to the decision of Dub to unmute Vapor. Please PM me Vapor if you really want this unlocked again. -
Since this topic is basically solved, I don't wanna put oil the fire, although there are some things that needs some further context. Well, I don't remember anyone saying this exact thing, but sometimes I just had that feel while reading the chat. I would say the same kind of "fights" were with you, Orange/heveren/Gabe N and Ciken. I don't think I ever had a "fight" with Vulpy and Zeitmann, tho, rather some debates. Fonfon and Mad - well, those were actual conflicts. I got told 20 times to let people enjoy the games they like. I don't think I "violated" this advice for the past time period. I rather rant about certain things like politics and the video game industry. I don't even raid the GTA V/VI thread anymore. Instead of telling people what to play and what to not play - I prefer to focus on telling why I like/don't like the certain video game. Fonfon indeed got punished for that (for 3 days), although I got muted for 3 days, too. Me getting muted didn't make any sense. I'm not just saying that because it wasn't really fair, but due to the fact that things he told kinda messed me up. As I basically did a "social media detox" after that. I actually didn't. ("From my part, you're a strange case: few times you are actually kind and helpful, other times you just wish me to disappear from the face of the Earth. ") You say that you have been ignoring me for a long time, until a certain point. I also say that I wanted to avoid addressing you in a forum post. For this exact reason you told. That's why I don't get some of your approaches: sometimes you are providing help and we are actually agreeing on some things, yet at other times I feel like you being the second coming of MoshPit. Since I had mixed feelings (and still have), I just didn't want to make yet another "address topic" (probably I will just remove or "hide" this post in the future, just like I did with the "Sandy topic"). However, today's event was unexpected, so I immediately grabbed the keyboard, as I already had a lot to tell about certain things in the community. I was never against the fact that there are some key members that have access to specific features. I just don't like the above-mentioned "kings and peasants" approach, and people getting massive punishments (unless they do some really unacceptable things), while only a few people are being around nowadays. Well, I don't say there's a big tyranny on the Discord, however, at times you were telling about me getting muted or banned, and that led me to have bad vibes. No. -
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Would be even more than fine, considering we both use such terms, I wouldn't feel any bad if you used those against me. So do I, show me a single member that felt "threatened" by me, I will wait. Yeah, because 10 people are actually active, so i only count those. You are implying they have never told that, even tho you've had multiple fights with Vulpy, fonfon, heveren, Mad and even Ciken that always consisted of pretty much the same situation, as the one that happened between me and you. To add an extra to that, fonfon was already warned multiple times for doing that as well. They might have reacted differently, possibly with a more proper approach to a situation as well, I don't deny that. Enough? Probably after being told 20 times over the same reason, that would definitely count it as enough. The people that mocked you or told you to "unalive" yourself were punished for that too. And I totally agree with this, always did, always will. If i would realize there was an issue with someone, or better, had an actual report about that, I might have had. Besides, most of those reports were far before i was managing anything and could have had a proper word about the situation. And I guess you have already forgotten about all the times when I suggested the actual "good" causes to you that were pretty much taken under no consideration whatsoever. If I am not heard, then I may as well ignore that topic, cause it's meaningless. Gaming communities have hierarchies too and in our case, it's mostly about who has certain permissions to see staff specific channels and an access to more commands. I don't get the whole "kings and peasants" approach either, I always thought people were pretty much equal here, especially since we all stopped bothering about rules ALL THE TIME. Considerations vs throwing words on the wind. If i would actually consider that and wanted to do that, I would've done it, as i said in my previous post. You want to feel on the same level and yet you are "scared" that someone will do something to you (mute, ban, warn, whatever), even tho none of that has happened for the past few years. Being irritated and expressing that over being irritated and actually doing your work are 2 different things. I love to talk sometimes, whether it's some bullshit reason, whether it's something insultive or something actually kind, none of that actually means that I am going to do that (99% of times it's really meaningless, even if it may sound otherwise) I also don't get the tyrannical part either, I don't see anybody enforcing rules a minute after someone breaks them, I don't see people stomping on each other (besides few cases, that you have already addressed), it's all just a banter. I am not sure if ciken is gonna reply to the post, but after talking to him and Vulpy, I will actually unmute you, cause I agree on what they said. It makes no sense to keep you muted over my stupidity at this point. I will keep this topic unlocked for now, whether someone wants to add anything or if you wanna reply.
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