--- Greetings to the [lol] Family --- Rogue is right, and to be honest, everyday I see mostly the same players on the PL server, so if the old players are leaving, the server will die. Face the reality, the servers are lagging, there are always stacked teams and new players are leaving because of no scramble vote but we are still playing on the PL server because we are like a family, and the game is not always about killing and being #1 on the scoreboard. After all, TF 2 is a fun game. Of course this doesn't mean that we are gonna play forever on those servers just because of this. We are getting bored and sick of the same problems. Your server is not the only server out here with upgrades. 2 of the servers are mostly empty and you don't even care that you are wasting money. TC said on the crits topic that removing the crits will make players leave the server, and then on the PL new maps topic you said that "Borax" and "Cranetop" were hated and players were leaving, yet you said that if you would want to add new maps you would add the "Borax" and "Cranetop" maps back on the server. Won't that make players leave the server once again? Seriosly now...you admins are dumb. I don't know where did you learn how to run a community. I don't play 6 hours a day anymore on the PL server like I used to do because I`m bored of the same maps and same settings. How hard is to add some maps? You are just lazy and that's the simple truth about TC. --- Do something! ---