glitching is pretty much hacking

[Guest]

Your door was not ender pearl proof. If it was how else could we get in?

You know what else you can do, record it and show him.

[EmRA]

Homosexuality is bad, it's not how god intended it to be!

Stop exploiting it just because god gave you free will guys

It's just like murdering someone god didnt intend that either

guys cmon

stop with the dicks

seriously guys

god damn

[greenhillsoldier]

thank u ur the first to know what there talking about

[awesomeo_5000]

I don't ever expect a perfect example of grammatical English on here, especially seeing as a lot of you guys are bilingual. But I'm finding a lot of these posts a real challenge to get through...

Just stick in a full stop here and there. Or a new paragraph. And to quote somebody just hit either reply or multiquote next to the post and the forum will handle it for you

Glitchers gunna glitch. If you check the Server Issues thread there's a proposed solution to it there, and hopefully we'll look into how viable it is for the server.

[greenhillsoldier]

Im trying to do what ever i can to stop people abusing glitches theres just so many combat glitches its ridiculous,

and peopel are proud they abuse them

[Blood_Stone01]

Im trying to do what ever i can to stop people abusing glitches theres just so many combat glitches its ridiculous,

and peopel are proud they abuse them

mate u need to get a life. all i did was hit you through a door, woooow its not hacking, hacking is if im flying or something. people do this all the time its part of the minecraft coding like one of the admins said, just shutup and play the game.

[Bidzman123]

Im trying to do what ever i can to stop people abusing glitches theres just so many combat glitches its ridiculous,

and peopel are proud they abuse them

As we can see it is such a struggle for you to spell corretly. And you can hit people through a door even if it isnt your land or territory its part of the game if jeb didnt like it he would have removed it so shut up and stop crying.

[greenhillsoldier]

Im trying to do what ever i can to stop people abusing glitches theres just so many combat glitches its ridiculous,

and peopel are proud they abuse them

mate u need to get a life. all i did was hit you through a door, woooow its not hacking, hacking is if im flying or something. people do this all the time its part of the minecraft coding like one of the admins said, just shutup and play the game.

im not blaming u of hacking what im doing is trying to get people to play the game fair and honestly thats all i want peopel to play the game the way it was intended. cant u just respect that.

Im trying to do what ever i can to stop people abusing glitches theres just so many combat glitches its ridiculous,

and peopel are proud they abuse them

As we can see it is such a struggle for you to spell corretly. And you can hit people through a door even if it isnt your land or territory its part of the game if jeb didnt like it he would have removed it so shut up and stop crying.

dont bring my spelling into it ur here just to insult becuz i hate glitching and u loser like it. show some respect.

i know how that glitch works what u do is break it or open it and hit me real fast i had redgander explain it to me how people hit me thew wall and shit, and u cant hit people with swords thew doors jeb didnt intend that he made it so u can shoot thew them becuz if u whack the door it opens not waking u thew the window.

Edited June 23, 2012 by greenhillsoldier

[Blood_Stone01]

Im trying to do what ever i can to stop people abusing glitches theres just so many combat glitches its ridiculous,

and peopel are proud they abuse them

mate u need to get a life. all i did was hit you through a door, woooow its not hacking, hacking is if im flying or something. people do this all the time its part of the minecraft coding like one of the admins said, just shutup and play the game.

im not blaming u of hacking what im doing is trying to get people to play the game fair and honestly thats all i want peopel to play the game the way it was intended. cant u just respect that.

Im trying to do what ever i can to stop people abusing glitches theres just so many combat glitches its ridiculous,

and peopel are proud they abuse them

As we can see it is such a struggle for you to spell corretly. And you can hit people through a door even if it isnt your land or territory its part of the game if jeb didnt like it he would have removed it so shut up and stop crying.

u my friend are stupid jeb didnt make the factions mod dont bring my spelling into it ur here just to insult becuz i hate glitching and u loser like it. show some respect.

first of all what you just said makes no sense, second whats the point of playing faction servers when you cant even get into a guys base without using ender pearls,plus your just a bad player u dont use your brain and your faction is so easy to get into.

[greenhillsoldier]

Im trying to do what ever i can to stop people abusing glitches theres just so many combat glitches its ridiculous,

and peopel are proud they abuse them

mate u need to get a life. all i did was hit you through a door, woooow its not hacking, hacking is if im flying or something. people do this all the time its part of the minecraft coding like one of the admins said, just shutup and play the game.

im not blaming u of hacking what im doing is trying to get people to play the game fair and honestly thats all i want peopel to play the game the way it was intended. cant u just respect that.

Im trying to do what ever i can to stop people abusing glitches theres just so many combat glitches its ridiculous,

and peopel are proud they abuse them

As we can see it is such a struggle for you to spell corretly. And you can hit people through a door even if it isnt your land or territory its part of the game if jeb didnt like it he would have removed it so shut up and stop crying.

u my friend are stupid jeb didnt make the factions mod dont bring my spelling into it ur here just to insult becuz i hate glitching and u loser like it. show some respect.

first of all what you just said makes no sense, second whats the point of playing faction servers when you cant even get into a guys base without using ender pearls,plus your just a bad player u dont use your brain and your faction is so easy to get into.

ok back before ender pearls people still got in each others bases why cant we now. i posted that to make people aware that glitching is almost the same thing as hacking ur altering the game to alow u to do something ur not intended to do not about how ur raiding my base.

Edited June 23, 2012 by greenhillsoldier

[syncr0]

Glitches are the best part of raids

This is how I see it:

Short version (aka TL;DR): Agreed

Long version:

Personally I like glitches, they make trying to get into someones base more of a challenge, which makes it more interesting & exciting. It's starts to get boring when everyone has figured out how to make their base tnt proof... And if you can't get in a base, you can't claim and there pretty much no battle left whatsoever.

I understand some people have problems with these glitches not being morally acceptable, but:

Imagine The following 2 scenario's:

scenario A:

Imagine if the admins were to give out penalties to everyone who uses a glitch, this would become too much of a hassle. You have to define which are glitches & which are not, some might be considered a glitch by some, while the same one can be considered not a glitch by someone else. They'd have to keep track of players + it is very hard to get evidence. And what when a player accidently get stuck in a wall after enderpearling? He could walk or fall through the wall. Should he be penaltied? Can you prove it was an accident or not? No.. Annoying.. It would be too much of a waste of time for the admins. They got more important things to spend their time with (ACTUAL cheaters: people with cheat mods; performance issues; updates/patches/plugins; setting up safezones, building stuff; promoting; etc.)

scenario B:

- Than there is the other situation where everyone is allowed to use the same amount of 'tricks' as the next person: which is use any action which can give you a benefit (with the use of a vanilla minecraft), duping NOT included. This is a good setup. Everyone is pretty much equal, there should be no one with a disadvantage.

The only disadvantage you can have is the lack of knowledge (of glitches): for instance not knowing what a boat glitch is, how to use it and how to protect your base against it. So this is pretty much like the lack of knowledge of non-glitches : they also give you a disadvantage in the game.

(simple example: hitting someone while sprinting makes them knockback; so for instance you don't really need a knockback sword to knock someone of a mountain. If you don't know stuff like this you have a disadvantage => same goes with glitches)

I like scenario B a lot more to be honest. It might not sound 100% moral, but at least it makes it fair for everyone. To give another example: in scenario A there can be a case where you KNOW for sure someone glitched in your base, but you can never get evidence ('cause it's so hard), which cause a lot of frustration, demotivation, hate, annoyances, etc...

You could blame the lack of bukkit plugins & the developpers, you rage towards the the L4G admins, you could annoy , whine, rage, hate, bother jeb... But in the end you'll be sitting behind your pc waiting ... and nothing will happen. Except all those negative feelings will only grow bigger.

But in scenario A you have certainty that everyone is equal & has the same abilities as long as they are willing to learn them.

Soo, if we all accept this rule ("glitching is not against the rules -except duping-, go annoy jeb or a bukkit team member if you don't like it"), it will make all our gameplay experiences better.

So go ahead and glitch into the bases of whoever attacked you & kick their asses! See glitches as something new you can learn (like all those things you can learn on youtube like farm designs etc.), see it as a challenge.

Here's what I do: I test these things in single player. If you understand how a glitch works, you'll eventually learn how to make ANTI-glitch bases

Sidenote: I do want to point out, that no one here should not take offence in what I say. I'm not attacking anyone personally. I'm only giving my opinion. I say this because I sensed a flame war starting to emerge with some of the people who have posted here & I don't want to be in the middle of it. Just giving my opinion.

Happy minecrafting

Edited June 23, 2012 by syncr0

[greenhillsoldier]

Glitches are the best part of raids

This is how I see it:

Short version (aka TL;DR): Agreed

Long version:

Personally I like glitches, they make trying to get into someones base more of a challenge, which makes it more interesting & exciting. It's starts to get boring when everyone has figured out how to make their base tnt proof... And if you can't get in a base, you can't claim and there pretty much no battle left whatsoever.

I understand some people have problems with these glitches not being morally acceptable, but:

Imagine The following 2 scenario's:

scenario A:

Imagine if the admins were to give out penalties to everyone who uses a glitch, this would become too much of a hassle. You have to define which are glitches & which are not, some might be considered a glitch by some, while the same one can be considered not a glitch by someone else. They'd have to keep track of players + it is very hard to get evidence. And what when a player accidently get stuck in a wall after enderpearling? He could walk or fall through the wall. Should he be penaltied? Can you prove it was an accident or not? No.. Annoying.. It would be too much of a waste of time for the admins. They got more important things to spend their time with (ACTUAL cheaters: people with cheat mods; performance issues; updates/patches/plugins; setting up safezones, building stuff; promoting; etc.)

scenario B:

- Than there is the other situation where everyone is allowed to use the same amount of 'tricks' as the next person: which is use any action which can give you a benefit (with the use of a vanilla minecraft), duping NOT included. This is a good setup. Everyone is pretty much equal, there should be no one with a disadvantage.

The only disadvantage you can have is the lack of knowledge (of glitches): for instance not knowing what a boat glitch is, how to use it and how to protect your base against it. So this is pretty much like the lack of knowledge of non-glitches : they also give you a disadvantage in the game.

(simple example: hitting someone while sprinting makes them knockback; so for instance you don't really need a knockback sword to knock someone of a mountain. If you don't know stuff like this you have a disadvantage => same goes with glitches)

I like scenario B a lot more to be honest. It might not sound 100% moral, but at least it makes it fair for everyone. To give another example: in scenario A there can be a case where you KNOW for sure someone glitched in your base, but you can never get evidence ('cause it's so hard), which cause a lot of frustration, demotivation, hate, annoyances, etc...

You could blame the lack of bukkit plugins & the developpers, you rage towards the the L4G admins, you could annoy , whine, rage, hate, bother jeb... But in the end you'll be sitting behind your pc waiting ... and nothing will happen. Except all those negative feelings will only grow bigger.

But in scenario A you have certainty that everyone is equal & has the same abilities as long as they are willing to learn them.

Soo, if we all accept this rule ("glitching is not against the rules -except duping-, go annoy jeb or a bukkit team member if you don't like it"), it will make all our gameplay experiences better.

So go ahead and glitch into the bases of whoever attacked you & kick their asses! See glitches as something new you can learn (like all those things you can learn on youtube like farm designs etc.), see it as a challenge.

Here's what I do: I test these things in single player. If you understand how a glitch works, you'll eventually learn how to make ANTI-glitch bases

Sidenote: I do want to point out, that no one here should not take offence in what I say. I'm not attacking anyone personally. I'm only giving my opinion. I say this because I sensed a flame war starting to emerge with some of the people who have posted here & I don't want to be in the middle of it. Just giving my opinion.

Happy minecrafting

i like ur opinion and u make a point unlike every one else where there only argument is they will hide in their base well i just want people to realize its not a good thing and u shouldn't be exploiting it me and slave told awesomeo about a anti glitch plugin on a bukkit mod that makes it so u cant get glitched and u cant place boats anywhere.

[Greenhillslave]

This is getting out of hand, somebody should really close this thread. I don't think this thread was intended to start a civil war, i think it was meant to alert the admins that there are actually fixes and the point has gotten accrosed

Edited June 24, 2012 by Greenhillslave

[oogappeltje]

Glitches are the best part of raids

This is how I see it:

Short version (aka TL;DR): Agreed

Long version:

Personally I like glitches, they make trying to get into someones base more of a challenge, which makes it more interesting & exciting. It's starts to get boring when everyone has figured out how to make their base tnt proof... And if you can't get in a base, you can't claim and there pretty much no battle left whatsoever.

I understand some people have problems with these glitches not being morally acceptable, but:

Imagine The following 2 scenario's:

scenario A:

Imagine if the admins were to give out penalties to everyone who uses a glitch, this would become too much of a hassle. You have to define which are glitches & which are not, some might be considered a glitch by some, while the same one can be considered not a glitch by someone else. They'd have to keep track of players + it is very hard to get evidence. And what when a player accidently get stuck in a wall after enderpearling? He could walk or fall through the wall. Should he be penaltied? Can you prove it was an accident or not? No.. Annoying.. It would be too much of a waste of time for the admins. They got more important things to spend their time with (ACTUAL cheaters: people with cheat mods; performance issues; updates/patches/plugins; setting up safezones, building stuff; promoting; etc.)

scenario B:

- Than there is the other situation where everyone is allowed to use the same amount of 'tricks' as the next person: which is use any action which can give you a benefit (with the use of a vanilla minecraft), duping NOT included. This is a good setup. Everyone is pretty much equal, there should be no one with a disadvantage.

The only disadvantage you can have is the lack of knowledge (of glitches): for instance not knowing what a boat glitch is, how to use it and how to protect your base against it. So this is pretty much like the lack of knowledge of non-glitches : they also give you a disadvantage in the game.

(simple example: hitting someone while sprinting makes them knockback; so for instance you don't really need a knockback sword to knock someone of a mountain. If you don't know stuff like this you have a disadvantage => same goes with glitches)

I like scenario B a lot more to be honest. It might not sound 100% moral, but at least it makes it fair for everyone. To give another example: in scenario A there can be a case where you KNOW for sure someone glitched in your base, but you can never get evidence ('cause it's so hard), which cause a lot of frustration, demotivation, hate, annoyances, etc...

You could blame the lack of bukkit plugins & the developpers, you rage towards the the L4G admins, you could annoy , whine, rage, hate, bother jeb... But in the end you'll be sitting behind your pc waiting ... and nothing will happen. Except all those negative feelings will only grow bigger.

But in scenario A you have certainty that everyone is equal & has the same abilities as long as they are willing to learn them.

Soo, if we all accept this rule ("glitching is not against the rules -except duping-, go annoy jeb or a bukkit team member if you don't like it"), it will make all our gameplay experiences better.

So go ahead and glitch into the bases of whoever attacked you & kick their asses! See glitches as something new you can learn (like all those things you can learn on youtube like farm designs etc.), see it as a challenge.

Here's what I do: I test these things in single player. If you understand how a glitch works, you'll eventually learn how to make ANTI-glitch bases

Sidenote: I do want to point out, that no one here should not take offence in what I say. I'm not attacking anyone personally. I'm only giving my opinion. I say this because I sensed a flame war starting to emerge with some of the people who have posted here & I don't want to be in the middle of it. Just giving my opinion.

Happy minecrafting

Its LAME that you wrote this piece of text. But Respect mate

[Bidzman123]

Glitches are the best part of raids

This is how I see it:

Short version (aka TL;DR): Agreed

Long version:

Personally I like glitches, they make trying to get into someones base more of a challenge, which makes it more interesting & exciting. It's starts to get boring when everyone has figured out how to make their base tnt proof... And if you can't get in a base, you can't claim and there pretty much no battle left whatsoever.

I understand some people have problems with these glitches not being morally acceptable, but:

Imagine The following 2 scenario's:

scenario A:

Imagine if the admins were to give out penalties to everyone who uses a glitch, this would become too much of a hassle. You have to define which are glitches & which are not, some might be considered a glitch by some, while the same one can be considered not a glitch by someone else. They'd have to keep track of players + it is very hard to get evidence. And what when a player accidently get stuck in a wall after enderpearling? He could walk or fall through the wall. Should he be penaltied? Can you prove it was an accident or not? No.. Annoying.. It would be too much of a waste of time for the admins. They got more important things to spend their time with (ACTUAL cheaters: people with cheat mods; performance issues; updates/patches/plugins; setting up safezones, building stuff; promoting; etc.)

scenario B:

- Than there is the other situation where everyone is allowed to use the same amount of 'tricks' as the next person: which is use any action which can give you a benefit (with the use of a vanilla minecraft), duping NOT included. This is a good setup. Everyone is pretty much equal, there should be no one with a disadvantage.

The only disadvantage you can have is the lack of knowledge (of glitches): for instance not knowing what a boat glitch is, how to use it and how to protect your base against it. So this is pretty much like the lack of knowledge of non-glitches : they also give you a disadvantage in the game.

(simple example: hitting someone while sprinting makes them knockback; so for instance you don't really need a knockback sword to knock someone of a mountain. If you don't know stuff like this you have a disadvantage => same goes with glitches)

I like scenario B a lot more to be honest. It might not sound 100% moral, but at least it makes it fair for everyone. To give another example: in scenario A there can be a case where you KNOW for sure someone glitched in your base, but you can never get evidence ('cause it's so hard), which cause a lot of frustration, demotivation, hate, annoyances, etc...

You could blame the lack of bukkit plugins & the developpers, you rage towards the the L4G admins, you could annoy , whine, rage, hate, bother jeb... But in the end you'll be sitting behind your pc waiting ... and nothing will happen. Except all those negative feelings will only grow bigger.

But in scenario A you have certainty that everyone is equal & has the same abilities as long as they are willing to learn them.

Soo, if we all accept this rule ("glitching is not against the rules -except duping-, go annoy jeb or a bukkit team member if you don't like it"), it will make all our gameplay experiences better.

So go ahead and glitch into the bases of whoever attacked you & kick their asses! See glitches as something new you can learn (like all those things you can learn on youtube like farm designs etc.), see it as a challenge.

Here's what I do: I test these things in single player. If you understand how a glitch works, you'll eventually learn how to make ANTI-glitch bases

Sidenote: I do want to point out, that no one here should not take offence in what I say. I'm not attacking anyone personally. I'm only giving my opinion. I say this because I sensed a flame war starting to emerge with some of the people who have posted here & I don't want to be in the middle of it. Just giving my opinion.

Happy minecrafting

Its LAME that you wrote this piece of text. But Respect mate

How is it lame? More like his english and grammar is really good i mean like seriously there is nothing wrong with writing a paragraph or an entire assessment about your opinion. It's lame you thought that.