De_operation_submarine

[Mr. Darkness]

Alright pals

Looking backward to teh bug with Hammer, I have done the map!

Notes:

*Its impossible to camp on your spawn because there is a trigger hurt (the button is hidden, And I will never say where is it > (Ill tell only to admins))

*Enough space thar

*Some hidden tips (triggers, lasers, sounds, animations)

*Env_cubemap added

*Nice corridor atmosphere

*Goes for both gamemodes (Infected wars, zombie survival)

And ofcource the pictures.

*1st picture is humans spawn

*3rd picture is zombie spawn (there is a hidden button to activate the lightnings)

de_operation_submarine.zip

de_operation_submarine.rar

Edited April 30, 2010 by Mr.Darkness

[Albzi]

Trigger hurt is nice in the spawn, but make it look realistic why you're getting hurt. For example, if you just get hurt, make an env_fire so that there is a source to the pain, or sparks or water flowing up etc.

Also, the textures inside the doors look very out of place, maybe sticking with the stone texture inside.

Edited April 30, 2010 by BeatAlex

[Mr. Darkness]

Trigger hurt is nice in the spawn, but make it look realistic why you're getting hurt. For example, if you just get hurt, make an env_fire so that there is a source to the pain, or sparks or water flowing up etc.

Also, the textures inside the doors look very out of place, maybe sticking with the stone texture inside.

I made some sort of acid coming out from the pipe (the damn big sausage there)

It makes -3hp / 0 sec 30 msec

Edited April 30, 2010 by Mr.Darkness

[Notte]

Wont Trigger hurt make the zombies/humans at there own spawn get killed to?

[Albzi]

3hp per half a second?!

By the time you get out of the spawn, you'll be at 88hp, that's to take 2 seconds to try and get out of spawn

[Notte]

I think is better to make a spawn where humans cant get and it have 4-5 exit's

But its not my map Good job Dark at least you do something aboute the spawn camping

Edited April 30, 2010 by Notte

[Mr. Darkness]

Now you can download (rar, zip)

Wont Trigger hurt make the zombies/humans at there own spawn get killed to?

No.

Only humans. Also. Its very hard to find the button. I tell ya, Only I know how to get to it without a problem.

Its not near, but not far.

+ it wont instakill. It makes a low damage. You spawn near the exit, so you still have chances not getting hurt.

3hp per half a second?!

By the time you get out of the spawn, you'll be at 88hp, that's to take 2 seconds to try and get out of spawn

First you need to activate the button, and then the poison will start to work.

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P.s: you know that some people like to wait till someone will be chosen as a zombie? well. When somebody will be spawned, that will be his problem if he didnt get out at time.

P.s2: Zombies have 2 exits, so they will have a nice run. + if teh humans will go backwards, they can "stuck" (not rly) thanks to a pipe on their way >:S, so they gat easilly trapped.

Edited April 30, 2010 by Mr.Darkness

[Notte]

Only humans. Also. Its very hard to find the button. I tell ya, Only I know how to get to it without a problem.

Its not near, but not far.

People will find it

[Albzi]

If it has to be activated first, it wont get activated at all because only you and the admins know how to turn it on and off.

Which means people can still camp in spawn. Also, is the trigger in the whole room, or does it only work when you touch the floor, because if it's that, then people can jump up on props/tables whatever you have in the spawn and no longer get effected and camp.

[Mr. Darkness]

Trigger hurt is nice in the spawn, but make it look realistic why you're getting hurt. For example, if you just get hurt, make an env_fire so that there is a source to the pain, or sparks or water flowing up etc.

Also, the textures inside the doors look very out of place, maybe sticking with the stone texture inside.

I can use Red/white texture, like i did in D7 zone. (Teh name )

[Albzi]

The fifth picture down, the red/white etxtures look out of place, use the stone texture you used for the walls so it suits and looks better.

[Mr. Darkness]

It works in almost whole room.

You can jump in the submarine water (You will find there something ) and the acid wont get you.

I can make a logic_timer there so it will activate itself in some time. (eeh well, i dont know how to work with logic_timer xD)

[Albzi]

I don't think logic timer would work either, people join during the game and it will kill them. How about making the spawn less camp worthy, like adding some health vials in another room so people wont stay in the spawn, or after a while a massive door pushes you out of the spawn, so anyone who spawns after it can climb out, but humans can't climb in (and for humans that want to stay in the spawn so the zombies can't get them, make a secret vent that breaks after a certain amount of time so that Zombies can climb through it leading all the way to the back of the human spawn.

[Mr. Darkness]

Medikits wont work. Im not sure that they will run for them only to comeout forever or sort of.

Cuz. They always come back after that.

[Albzi]

Make them spawn in different places, so there is no set spawn, or make the room smaller or put some disadvanted to the humans if they go in there, so that they get killed, I just don't think that the players who join the game half way through will be happy when they have finished loading and started playing, that they have 5 seconds to get out the spawn or they'll die.

[Mr. Darkness]

Make them spawn in different places, so there is no set spawn, or make the room smaller or put some disadvanted to the humans if they go in there, so that they get killed, I just don't think that the players who join the game half way through will be happy when they have finished loading and started playing, that they have 5 seconds to get out the spawn or they'll die.

If its zs, then the randomspawn is already done. (ask Deluvas, he knows everything about it)

If you talk about iw, then I can try changing properties. But anyway. The exit is 2 meters away from spawnpoint. The exit corridor (red/white) is Very near, belive me.

And the picture you saw me standing on the platform was only to show you the room.

Edited April 30, 2010 by Mr.Darkness

[Albzi]

The spawn camping wont even matter that much as medics will heal themselves and others anyway, in both gamemodes.

[Mr. Darkness]

They will drain their suit.

And the healing time goes a bit longer in time.

In zs they heal 1 hp (most medics do). But the trigger does more damage.

If you try to jump and stay in water, you will drown, and if you will try to swim, you will automaticly jump on submarine, where you also get hurted.

Edited April 30, 2010 by Mr.Darkness

[Notte]

Why dont you just use steam chat xD

[Mr. Darkness]

Because, to make sure that other people will get the answer on same questions. (FAQ btw)

[Albzi]

Why dont you just use steam chat xD

1, like Darkness said, it could answer potential questions.

2, I'm not allowed on Steam at work

[PEPPER]

One question: HOW not to get hurted by "culture"?

[Albzi]

I think what you mean is how do you not get hurt at spawn or something, so stay out of it once you've spawned?

[Mr. Darkness]

When you spawn you dont get insta-hurt.

You get hurt when you press one magic button, which is hidden somewhere in the map

(Ну вообщем так)

[Mr. Darkness]

[sORRY FOR DOUBLE POST]

People, maybe I need to add a bit more decals, like blood?

Deluvas thinks its pretty empty in corridors

Edited April 30, 2010 by Mr.Darkness