Thats about the berserkers-runners and medic fags which were running all over the time. THATS what I'm actually talking about. Humans need to get a scale. But yes, otherwise with the thing when there is lasthuman and such, the scale is only doing worth it. There has to be something with stopping humans, not something only with on-hit stop. Agreed about these words there, Damien ;D And also, you are not the only one who likes playing zombie. By the way. When we were playing with Toaster once counter 5 campers, we owned them alone. You know how? Easy: When he was a fast zombie, I was a zombine. He was taking care of campers while jumping all over the place and I just was coming, not even geting hurt. When they were shooting Toaster, I hit each one from behind. If they saw that and turned back, Toaser's turn was coming. And we got 3 kills both (actually 3, not 5, because of some other zombies there :S). [offtopic] Scince now, Jeremiah, I will just ignore you.