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Maps should only be deleted if there are bugs that prevent it from being completed.

They might not improve the server, but they don't make it worse. If you had your way, the server would only have maps that you have a top 1 at, right?

Variety. The maps you think are shit aren't shit to everyone. I forgot... Only what you and megaz say should matter.

Yes. They were put into their positions by those above us, so I trust that they are doing a good job. If we suspect that they aren't, then we shall impeach them.

I just still don't believe that number 2 is exactly fair no matter what the ratio or specifics are. DIE MARATHON. DIE DIE DIE.

Idea: - Add an away / alive player count to the TAB leaderboard.

But everyone considers shit maps differently... What if the author thinks that their "shit map" is actually a good one?

You're saying that ANYONE who buys 2 maps in the same day is doing it ONLY to troll? That's stupid... I can totally see myself buying 10 Lap Hotring more than twice a day, because I really like it.

I'm surprised you came out of it so soon.

I've seen him do this a few times. I think he goes away for a while but forgets to come back when his map is on. Maybe on purpose, maybe by accident. My concern for this is that, while very unlikely, if someone hates a map enough, they might make a bunch of extra accounts or something just to dislike the map more. You never know, lol. But maybe this is the best route just to keep people happier. If a map does get deleted, do people really lose something in their life if a map in a video game server is deleted? Probably not (unless it's considered a classic map, I guess), so perhaps deleting them based on a ratio like you mentioned would work for now. (I think people will still bitch anyway...)

You're right, but we have to determine the reasoning for them wanting to remove the map to make sure it's practical enough to warrant deleting said map. Or, these people are consistent at trolling.

Moshpit FTW.

Again, just because a map has a lot of dislikes doesn't mean it's shit. It could just be from a bunch of players who are bad at the map... I think if you look at the average amount of players per hour throughout the past 7 years, it's not on the decline, but it's probably the same. Why do most people in the server actually play a map instead of rage-AFK or quitting? These are bad people.

We don't know that. As mentioned on the other thread, maybe they might not like a map, but don't think it's worth coming to a forum to complain. So, maybe they just deal with it. Some of you guys remind me of the anti-Trump supporters who cry, complain and bitch about every little thing that they possibly can.

"A lot" Right... 3 or 4 people have voiced their displeasure towards the maps.

Just because you're loyal doesn't mean we have to do everything you want. We all know what the "problem" is, but it's not much of a problem. Really, the problem lies with the players who are incapable of playing some maps because they simply don't like or and / or think they are trash. You are doing exactly what you're saying: thinking of yourself and your own self interest. I'm starting to think you're just trolling us... LOL

The admins are thinking of all players. On the other hand, what you just said seems pretty hypocritical of you.

What you said about Hydra maps could be said about all maps with lots of dislikes... They're just hard maps that people would rather cry about instead of learning it.

You're angry because we don't want to cater to crybabies who can't deal with things that don't go their way. Final warning: stop spamming this thread unless you're reporting maps with bugs. Use the other thread instead.

No... It's just that is admins and mods are thinking for the server as a whole, not just the few who complain. Deal with the maps and learn how to play them :). Jeff Gordon would say the same!

Like we've been saying, just because IWFMD has a lot more dislikes than likes doesn't mean it's bad. But I see your point. I just don't like it. I shall /dislike your opinion :D.

If you can win at IWFMD2, you can win at any map .

I've been here for almost 7 years and spent the majority of the time on race. Plus, I've been playing race 90% of the time recently. I have come across maps that I don't like at all but I play through them anyway to see how I can do. I only like a few RTF maps. The rest are too long, and I don't care for long maps in general. How aren't they race maps? You can have multiple people racing for the finish... Then... Maybe it's best to find a server that has only the maps that you like? It's like using a cell phone provider that provides you with no service everywhere you go... Go find someone that better suits your needs. Not only that they don't like the author, but people might immediately dislike a map that they die once at (among other examples).

You're missing what people said earlier about there sometimes being dislikes made purely because they don't like the author, or the player just sucks at the game, or some other reason that doesn't mean the map should get deleted. The likes / dislikes mean very little so I do think that it should get deleted. I'd be afraid that some admins could occasionally be biased. You should be promoted to lead admin :D. I like this idea much more. But then we might have the same problem with likes / dislikes where people might just vote a map as 1.0 if they really hate it enough. But that's the thing. The author isn't there to always play it. This is why maps have a lot of time for people to learn the map and complete it. Then when it's played again later, more people will know how to play through it. Sounds like life in general... Why don't those maps belong on the race server? It's nice to have variety, no? Instead of the server being filled with based CP-to-CP maps around San Andreas, some of these very creative and technical maps can occasionally be played. It's not like you're playing them all the time... Either take a break, or actually learn how to play the map properly like many others. The maps you listed are race maps.

Maybe we can take a look at likes / dislikes and map age? So the older the map that has enough dislikes, the sooner it should be deleted. I don't know anymore. I'll just continue to enjoy both servers like I have for the past...6.5 years.