V4POR Posted Sunday at 10:02 PM Posted Sunday at 10:02 PM (edited) Unban request form: Your in-game name: V4POR Date of your ban: 10th May 2025 What game/server are you banned from: Discord Who banned you: F1MADKILLER! Reason why you got banned (only if you know why) Reason why we should unban you: I did not break any rules on Discord, I was just having fun on the chat like normally Hi! I want to form an unban request and file a complaint against one of the staff members, F1MADKILLER!, because I don't feel like my ban is justified. Normally, if someone posts an unban/unmute request, he tells what was the ban/mute reason, explain himself, apologize etc. Unfortunately, in this case, I've reached a dead end understanding Madkiller's train of thought. I still have no idea why he decided to ban me out of sudden, hence why I didn't write anything at the reason attribute. The last thing I remember talking about was warning user "fonfon" about posting a Honda Civic gif. I don't know how does it go against the rules, to be honest. (update with my last messages on the server below) That's about the unban request part. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Like I've said, I was just having a chat there, didn't even talk to him, minded my own business. Then out of sudden, he appeared, warned me about something I haven't even done. He mentioned something like...talking about his car? And me telling fonfon to post a Honda Civic gif? First of all, I didn't even talk about HIS car specifically, don't know where did it come from. I also did not ask fonfon to post a gif about Honda Civic, the exact opposite. I actually had good intentions in that message, because I didn't want fonfon to be banned for such non-sense reason as posting a GIF, as Madkiller indeed banned him before that, due to this "reason". This is what he called "crossing the line", then he started to threaten with ban, and took it as "provoking". --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Now comes the part about discussing provoking. As you've noticed, the #offtopic channel on the Discord server is about joking, having fun and not taking eachother seriously in 2025 (it applies for most of the people). I've also learnt this, and "catched the vibe". It's basically a place intended to chill and having fun. Until you are dare to joke about ANYTHING that is related to Madkiller even in the slightest. You see, Madkiller's activity on the chat mostly consists of joking about others ("roleplaying"), and this fact itself wouldn't be a problem. However, if you are dare to do joke with him, he gets angry, starts to insult you, and in worse case, threatens you with ban. There were several occasions of people being punished because the fact he can't take jokes, and choosing to be a manchild instead. This is what happened to fonfon, him simply posting a GIF about a Civic losing control on the road was enough reason for Mad to ban him. With that being said, it's not much surprise that he cannot take any form of critism towards him, not even in the slightest. A few days ago, Nick_026 warned someone on the chat because he posted the GTA6 countdown on a daily level, and it got tiring after a while. Then Madkiller bragged about himself being allowed to post the countdown regardless of this issue. I told him that the rules apply to him, too. This is what he came back with (sorry for messed up ratios): Here, he started to insult me, calling me "mentally challenged" and gave himself permission to insult me. Even suggested to off myself, which not just goes against the community's rules, but it goes against Discord's Terms of Services as well. This is the same person who told me that I "crossed the line". Thankfully, ciken stepped in and calmed down the situation, but it looks like that only the inevitable has been evited. I would not even give a f*ck about these comments if he wouldn't ban me for some non-sense. Also, you can just type the prompt from:F1MADKILLER! "vapor" on the Discord server, so you will see that he indeed liked to "provoking" me, but I did not take it serious, unlike him doing it for literally any joke addressed to him. I said "inevitable", because this is an on-going phenomenon for years, and I simply got tired of this, so I've decided to address this once and for all. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This guy is also a certified liar. He is not a stranger for someone I had problems with, as he started to act hostile to me in 2023 as well. Now I have to admit, I was fed up with this, and did a wrong approach to this issue back then (admitting mistakes is something Madkiller would NEVER do). The point is, that I was not happy about him timing me out, so I PM'd him on forums due to me being upset. Memorize the title, because this is his version: Not to mention that I could not even prove myself, as he suspended my Forum account. He used the same strategy yesterday, came up with a fake accusation of me "provoking" him, while I did not even talked to him this time. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And I left the worst part for last. I'm not an admin, but I know that as a staff member, having respect towards eachother is the most basic thing you should do. Ironically, in a totally unrelated post, Madkiller's true face has been shown. (https://forums.mrgreengaming.com/topic/35086-nobody-plays-mrgreen-in-2025) I was surprised that this didn't receive further attention, and makes me wonder how does he still have rights to judge above people. Zeitmann is actually one of the people who puts the most work to the community, as he keeps organizing different events, keeps making a handful of maps, and makes continuous contact to the players on the MTA servers. Calling him "worst toxic player" is a bit too much from someone who calls people "mentally challenged" and bans people over a goddamn GIF. I don't know the exact background, but I assumed that Zeitmann told some joke Madkiller didn't like (as always). And since Zeitmann is a staff member, Madkiller couldn't just ban him for no reason, so he decided to talk shit behind his back and ordered another player to annoy him. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- After all of this, he still wants me to apologize to him and have respect towards him. This is not how things work, Mad. How about YOU apologizing to all the people you caused inconvenience to? The only people I owe an apology to (also in the name of Madkiller) are the other admins who have been involved in this awkward situation. Edited Sunday at 10:49 PM by V4POR F1MADKILLER 1
Z3ITM4NN Posted Monday at 02:51 AM Posted Monday at 02:51 AM A little pov and a few additional Msgs from the Discord #offtopic channel in which the ban happened. First of all i will not do any statement regarding the part that includes me. I would directly unban you if the Ban wouldn't have been made by another Manager, but i am supporting the Unban Request in any way. I was previously more active (not anymore) in the offtopic channel which generally is a mix of shit-posting, arguing, roleplay, status/life updates, techtalk and a damn lot of trolling. In my opinion everyone there should be treated the same. Most of the Chatters there got trolled or have trolled, so as of me i don't see a reason to ban nor mute V4POR or any of the others for such. As for the "trying to talk like me" i seen that in various variations before too, not a issue until now. I would consider that a troll as max as for a Impersonation or similar he would have changed his nick to said Admin/Manager, which is not the case. Generally i see no reason to ban People on our discord if they are posting within the discord TOS. If they break our Rules a Mute will be enough. There are certain tough cases which V4POR isn't. (My Opinion as Person not as Manager of MTA) All following Screenshoots will be out of the public #Offtopic channel i will not share any disclosed information from the Manager chat or PMs about this topic. I share this since it shows that there is support for this Unban Request and as well in some cases Support for other parts of the complaint. Vapor can't provide these Screenshoots since he is banned. Additional i don't support the insults towards anyone on these screenshots. (Gestern=Yesterday, context of the timespan from the msgs) A Vote that happend and went for 24hs not long after V4POR got banned. (started by Nick_026. That represents very well a good part of the Offtopic Chatters even some that argued with V4POR voted in favour of him. The Response toward the Result: Another Reaction since Kerm1sh asked "why vapor still not unbanned" (the part covered by the discord thing on the bottem says "idc about that") following Msgs: I think that in this case you @F1MADKILLER can't see clear about the situation at hand since your taking it too Personal. Since a Admin 2x Managers and a Dev are in favour of a Unban i am asking you to Unban him. V4POR and F1MADKILLER 1 1
F1MADKILLER Posted Monday at 07:37 AM Posted Monday at 07:37 AM (edited) It is a 48hr ban he get unban later today, and vapor please learn to stop provoking people, and you ignored 3 polite requests to stop and a warning Edited Monday at 07:40 AM by F1MADKILLER V4POR 1
V4POR Posted Monday at 08:55 AM Author Posted Monday at 08:55 AM (edited) 1 hour ago, F1MADKILLER said: It is a 48hr ban he get unban later today, and vapor please learn to stop provoking people, and you ignored 3 polite requests to stop and a warning Who are the people I provoked? I can't stop something I haven't done. I couldn't not ignore your polite request as I had no idea what were you talking about. As I see now, you warned me for something as..."talking like you"? What is this, kindergarten? You insulted me several times (and even encouraged it to do so), you can't just make an excuse like giving me polite requests, and then ban me with an allegation without proof. I think after all of this circus, I should suggest an advice to you as well. Behave like a mature person, and don't take jokes seriously. (p.s: Big thanks for the people who supported me to getting unbanned, I appreciate it) Edited Monday at 09:15 AM by V4POR F1MADKILLER 1
F1MADKILLER Posted Monday at 10:06 AM Posted Monday at 10:06 AM Talking like me, taking about subjects you know nothing about, trying to get fonfon to post a certain gif, so on so forth topic is locked and don't put petrol on fire vapor, is all I am going to say, you stop the silly stuff please, as I done one thing you asked kermish to do not talk about GTA games in off topic V4POR 1
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