V4POR

You're a cool member, and I miss you on the chat. But you have to tone down/decrease the amount of trolling, I guess the overdose of it was the reason of your punishment. Otherwise, almost 2 years have passed, things have changed, so I think you deserve another chance. (Especially since other member received like a 10th chance, and that other member did worse things in MTA than just trolling) I wish you good luck.

I didn't deny that you were active back in 2022, because that's when you decided to start hosting Polish Paradise meeeting, if I'm right.

Introduction Hi there! It's been a long time since I've posted a topic on forums, especially about the state of MrGreen Gaming, but I think it's about time to write my opinions/suggestions again about several sections of this community (and share a bit of spotlight to the good ol' forums). Sadly, Cena stopped making his ownership posts, as he's not the owner anymore, so I've decided to post this in a topic dedicated to my thoughts. Also, it's been 5 years since I've registrated on MrGreen (It's incredible how time flies), so that's my other (and smaller) reason to make this post. If you're not a fan of long texts and essays, then I have bad news for you again, because I've been writing this post for a few days, and it will be a long read. Without any further ado, let's share my thoughts about the many aspects of the community. Playerbase Let's get through the unpleasant part, first. Green has been already suffering from losing playerbase since 2019. However, COVID-19 happened, and because the quarantines, players wandered back to the MTA servers, and the player count was increased drastically, and the servers felt like back in the old days. But as it was about to be over and COVID went more silent, players has been abandoned MTA again sadly, and Green's playerbase decreased back to 2019 state. Unfortunately, some Turkish players DDOS'd the servers in September 2021, and after that event, that's where I spotted a major dropdown at the already-not-so-big player count. There were only 3-5 players on each of MTA servers average on daily level. This is not really the fault of MrGreen, as of since 2022, the whole playerbase of MTA has been decreasing as well, and even the MTA Racing Community (which includes players who play on other race servers) is barely active now. However, since December 2022, the situation has became a bit better, as the online players count has increased. Not back to the 30-players-daily level, but it's still some nice achievement, especially after everyone thought Green is about to end. Even some old faces returned to the server, like sneezy, martin11, Brolius etc. So I can say that Mrgreen still holds up today, even if MTA is dying, but I will discuss the further details later. As the players themselves. For exchange of player loss, I think the playerbase got actually better, since me and others don't have any issues with majority of the current active players. Yeah, there are some faces who cause troubles sometimes, but toxic players've been around since the birth of online gaming, and I think the percentage of them is low nowadays. The chat also seems friendlier now, I mean just compare it to some chat from 2018-2020. I'm also surprised that there're still active teams, even if the player count isn't the same as in old times. So at least I end this section with positive notes. My old suggestions retrospective https://forums.mrgreengaming.com/topic/21917-ownership-jan-2019-jun-2020/#comment-174080 Under Cena's post from back in 2020, I posted various suggestions about improving the servers. Most of my suggestions weren't applied actually, I think they were too subjective (like custom emotes for example, also noone really misses music player except for me.) But I still would happy if some of my points would be applied, such as extended top leaderboard of the map where you could have the ability to see ALL the toptimes from a map, not just the top30. Also, I would like to see all players on the Leaderboards (Race,NTS etc) who have 1 point at least. I still agree that reroll item should be free, but as Nick_026 said, the economy system of Green is kinda broken already, so I can understand why it isn't. But actually, my "stability/bug fixes" suggestion which was really important, has been applied at least, so this section also ends with a positive note. Is Forums dead? Well, the activity of forums weren't that high already back in 2018-2020, but at least there was something to read on a daily level. But as of 2023, the forums became inactive, and there are little to no new posts except Event posts, and a few reports (it's interesting that report section didn't migrate successfully to Discord). The reason is not a mystery actually. The users are still active, just on another platform. MrGreen has a Discord server since 2016, and it's much more easy to use that for discussions. So people just use the Discord server if they want to communicate with other members from the community. Ofc, there are users who still visit the forums on a daily level, like Quad_Tube, but I find a bit sad that there isn't really anything new to read for them. As you noticed, the Chatbox has been removed for reasons I don't agree with. I can't deny that Discord has been much more relevant, but as I told, there're some users who still visit Forums, and don't use Discord. And chatbox was a nice feature for them to communicate, and overall it was part of the forums since 2006, the beginning of MrGreen. Some new contents have been added to forums, like ranks and achievements. They make the forums more colourful and modern, but I haven't seen anyone talking about these features. So what's the future of forums? I think it will be around still, but the activity won't increase as Discord has just replaced forums. It's still nice to have as an alternate and the homeplace of reports and long posts like I do (Discord has a character limit.) HUD/Features Some really good improvements here. I think the new race rankboard HUD was already there when I commented under Cena's topic, but I still think that it looks awesome, and it's a HUGE improvement over the old one. There was a period when timeout was a big issue, but thankfully it's also been fixed since then, and the connection is fine nowadays. Also, you have 4 vote options for a while, another update I really appreciate. Map costs has been lowered too, and I can't argue with that for obvious reasons. However, maintaining a team is still expensive, so if you want to make a team, make sure it will have decent amount of members, and it will stay active. As there is a huge number of inactive teams. Talking about teams, I still think there should be more owners, because cases like the owner will become inactive or banned. Stats board also shows if you play on keyboard, or on controller. And now, the whole server is controller supported as well! (You can vote with using controller for example.) And a new leaderboard has also been implemented for events. So thanks to Nick_026, the server still gets updates even in 2023, shoutout to him for making the server still playable in 2023 and for still adding updates/fixes. Maps The core element of the MTA servers. As I always found the maps as important elements, I've decided to make a Map Manager application at the end of 2020, but Cena denied it sadly, because the map managers were already there, and staff thought there is no need for any. From August 2021 to February 2023, the map management was simply non-existent. As the uploader itself stopped working, so admins couldn't upload new maps and couldn't remove any maps. Thankfully, Nick_026 solved that issue as well, so a big amount of new maps have been added in 2023, thanks to the ability to upload the maps on Discord. Hell, even me started to upload maps, but their reputation is varied, since kart isn't the most popular vehicle at all. Back in 2020, majority of highly-disliked maps have been removed, and honestly, I still don't miss them, so it was definitely a good decision. As for the final note, maps section is back and shining. Discord As I've mentioned, MrGreen has a Discord server for a while, and it features some nice contents. One of the most useful features is that you can watch the live chat of both MTA, and even Minecraft servers. (And even send messages!) Other than that, you can still chat with the community's active members, especially on the #offtopic chat. This channel is very active on a daily level, so if you haven't done it yet, I recommend you taking a visit at there. There are also other MTA, Minecraft and Garry's Mod-related channels, and also channels about various games like Forza-franchise, Microsoft Flight Simulator, Euro Truck Simulator etc, so you can just find what you like. I think there should be more channels in the "Hydepark" section, about popular topics like Music, Cars, Computers, Movies etc, but as I can see, other Discord users don't have this issue. Smaller notes, but there is also a channel dedicated to free games on Steam/GoG/Epic Games, and there are giveaways also, so the Discord server is definitely worth a visit. Staff/Moderation system Was a controversial section back then, will be a conversation section now. After I've posted that suggestion about moderation/admin system under Cena's post, things didn't turn out great, as I've been in a constant disagreement with staff in various things, sometimes it even want as far as I felt I had to write a demote request. I even got banned and muted a few times, because these conflicts. So it looked like my reputation towards the MrGreen Staff (and the whole server basically) is doomed. Probably that's the reason I haven't made a post about the state of MrGreen Gaming for a while. After Cena's ownership post and the end of 2020, various staff members have became inactive, including Jack123, whose status is still being unknown today. But other admins&mods have stopped playing on the server as well while the player loss was happening. Between September 2021 and December 2022, there were barely any moderators and admins on the servers because of that. However, there was little need of them, as the chat looked empty most of the times, sadly. But as of now, players like Mateoryt, Nick_026, Z3ITM4NN and koolaid are active on Race server usually, if there is any need. (however, it's pretty rare to mute and ban someone nowadays) Mix server's population has been finally increased at the past few weeks, so Nick_026 decided to give moderator role for a few active members there. Another change to mention is that because of the many sections of Green, certain members became Managers of different platforms/games. For example, ciken has been the Head of Minecraft for a while. So the whole Staff System seems more organized now. The MTA reports on the forums are handled correctly, and the judgements overall are far more valid now than before. There are no more exception-take with a few players, which was one of my main problems back then. On Discord (especially on #offtopic), there's a small chaos (at least for me) about what's right and what's not in Staff's opinion, but this issue is much less significant than previous problems on MTA, and it doesn't really affect the mood of the chat most of the times. (Not to mention that offtopic has the same people for a while.) Back to MTA. Another thing to mention is that even long-term controversial players get a new chance, and these players...have more-and-less success with that. The 2020 me would be arguing now, but I think the moderation/administration got better overall. Other servers MrGreen isn't just known because MTA, this community is presenting themselves in other games, too. After many years, the Minecraft server has been opened again back in November 2020. In the beginning, lot of people have joined, and built stuff, sometimes activity even surpassed MTA, but sadly they have lost interest after a while. Resetting the map helped to get some players back on track. This was going well, there were even some events, but unfortunately, they have lost interest again afterwhile. Even a modded Towny server has been opened, but it earned very little success, because it was only active on its first few days, despite being a server with lots of modifications I don't know why these things have happened, but I think I have a guess. After you get every OP item on Minecraft and discovered every location around, you simply get bored of the game. As I can see today, Minecrafters are talking about tips to get the servers back on track, so the story is not over yet. Garry's Mod Zombie Survival server is the part of MrGreen I'm the least familiar about. But it's sad to hear that the server is inactive, and it might be closed now, not sure about that. As I can see, Zombie Survival is an important piece of history of MrGreen as well. I need to mention that a member called Sukkerpups opened a Valheim server back in 2021, but unfortunately, he closed the server after a few months for unknown reasons. Z3ITM4NN and events And I saved the best for last. There were some events on MrGreen back then already (for example Double GC event), but they weren't really frequent. Around 2022, Mateoryt decided to host an event called Polish Paradise Meeting. This tournament-like event is usually about playing 20 fun maps (NTS & CoreMarkers), and ofc the best 5 will get rewards. This event is only hosted once per 2-3 months, but for exchange, the player count is always high on these events (in one occasion, there were almost 60 players showing up!). Moving forward to 2023. MrGreen doesn't have a Person of The Year award, but if there would be, Z3ITM4NN would definitely take that title. His name is not unfamiliar for some, he already hosted events on other race servers before. Then he decided to return back to MTA, and host events on Green on a weekly(!) level. The player count on these events varies, sadly there were only 14 players at the end of his recent one, but I really appreciate the effort he puts to the maps and his events. He literally makes like 5-20 maps for every event, which has been hosted every week(!) as I mentioned before, so huge shoutout to him. Hell, on the past weekend he hosted 2 events. Hopefully more people will join his events in the future, because he definitely deserves it. And he is a huge help to make MrGreen an active community in 2023. Future of MrGreen? Some people were already talking about this before, but as GTA 5 is still popular, I think a fiveM server would be very handy as a new server, because fiveM race servers...are kinda dull, so I think there is a demand for an unique race server like MrGreen. However, it would take a lot of effort to develop and maintain a server like this, so this will only stay as an idea for a while. Social media I think there's been a search for a Social Media Manager in the past, but it seems like noone was interested. I actually think there needs to be one, because the YouTube channel and the Instagram page are inactive. I kinda like those compilations on YouTube, I would like someone to continue that series. Or maybe someone should upload Event Highlights etc., too. Final Notes I don't really know the fate of MTA, but after hearing rumours about SA:MP listing shutting down, I'm worrying a bit, but let's hope that MTA will stay for a long time, as it's still a good experience in 2023. I actually think MTA is the game I've been playing for the longest time, and this server is a part of my entertainment since 2018, and it's great to have MrGreen even in 2023 as an active community. Let's see what the future holds.

Looks like never.

So in other words, you will get slydog here, and he will tell the same thing. (While he is being toxic with me as well). And one final question: Why the hell do you want to "bath" me? You make fun of me liking kart maps, and about my stats on race. And when did I made fun of your level? Stop making lies. We still aren't heading nowhere.

You don't have any authority to mock my stats, like in the screenshot I posted.

By the way: on Discord, I only mentioned you buying the same maps, but I haven't mentioned your behavior. But you still took it personally, and started to mock me in-game...which led the situation we are currently in...and I think it will not lead anywhere. Staff might think there is no other option than punishing both of us, because of a case which could've been discussed in a way more peaceful way betwee us, if you would actually behave maturely. So congratulations for that Diablo, I guess...

Even if you can spend your greencoins the way you want, you have to accept that there will be players who don't like your bought map. That's why I prefer to buy my preferred maps when there are less players around. Insults doesn't equal with critics. With your logic, I could report you as well, because you are making fun of me enjoying kart map. How can I be like Mariana by having a bad opinion about some of your maps and promap?

So you're actually reporting because I was dare to criticize your maps? It's so cringe. You shared these maps to the public, so you have to accept that not everyone will like them, and I think it's no problem by someone sharing their negative opinion about a map. Actually, it's a right to share your opinion, negative or not. There are more dislikes than likes on my map, but I don't complain about it. And if there are valid critics for my maps, I do listen to them openly. That's the difference between us.

You decided to report me and were trying your best to catch harmful messages from me, but those screenshots are the best you can come up with. And based on those screenshots, I shouldn't really comfirmed as a "very toxic player" I'm fine with players, until they ruin my fun. And you enjoy buying your maps while I'm around, don't even deny it.

About the second screenshot: You were mocking me as well because I like kart maps. Plus, you literally said the same thing. Why are you reporting me, when you literally did the same stuff? At this screenshot, you made fun of me, because I mentioned how you buying the same 12+ minute map every day make players quit, and my general bad experience when you're around. Third screenshot: I said that, after you made that provoking comment about me. What did you expect? That I will appreriate it? Ofc, I didn't like it, and I just had enough of his provoking comments. I leave this here, just to showcase how "calm" player you are, as you claim. And with this insult as well. I couldn't really catch this message, but hdp is acronym of "hijo de puta", a common Spanish insult.

About the first screenshot: The timer was almost over, when I was there, and actually I didn't block iTuli, went reverse, so he could earned that wonderful 9th/10th place which you are protesting for. If I would really block, then other players (except you and slydog) would start complaining about me as well, but appearently, it didn't happened. And that screenshot doesn't prove anything, since it doesn't show any sign of blocking him, and there was even free space he could pass through.

Additional note: "there are days when there is no admin or moderator, and on server enters noobs players and make clutters chat trash and makes it difficult for others to play server participants. They impudently block vehicles and break the rules. I visit the server very often virtually every day, so I think I would be able to make sure that nobody breaks the rules on the server." Taken from his admin application. (though he can't even do his moderator job properly.) Years later: blocks and rams on different maps, insults in pm, let other players block. That's why regular players should give feedback about a given staff about his/her job. Because not everyone takes their job seriously, and not everyone suit for the role, even if it's not paid. That doesn't mean you should use your role for your own benefits.

Your ingame name: V4POR The player's name who you are reporting: H@rD$tYleRzz! (also known as Destro) Which server are you requesting this: MTA Race The reason why this player should get demoted: incompetency for being a mod, ramming and blocking as a mod, insulting as a mod, taking exceptions with players Before you read this post, I advise you to read this one as well: I'm not doing this for fun. But when a moderator(!) rams you (and even blocks you) at all 3 rounds on the map, then I get muted by him, just because I got upset (by his dirty driving), I don't really find it fair and I think it's not the right thing to do from a moderator, especially when there was already a report about him from another player. From one year ago. I will show the entire incident to you from today. I know I ain't a saint either for that insult. Should it count as breaking the rules? Maybe. Could it have been avoidable? Definitely, if he drives cleanIy (minimal requirement for a moderator), then I wouldn't get fustrated, and wouldn't have said such things in anger. I try to be nice with everyone, or at least being neutral. But when someones keeps ramming or blocking me intentionally, I lose my coolness. This applies for most of the players, even staff players get angry for that on race. The "fucking idiot" was after the 3rd time when he screwed up my race. Why can't he race clearly? Don't really get it. Does he have some personal issues with me? Tell me about it in private message, I'm listening. At the 3rd occassion he just pit-manuevered me (as a MOD, I repeat!), for whatever reason, but of course he asked about my sanity. He could just say sorry for ramming and blocking me, but no, that would be too easy, and would hurt his ego. Was just more simple to throwing around with my insult and threatening with mute. A moderator doesn't do stuff like that. A moderator would say sorry if he rams or blocks unintentionally. Or even if he does it intentionally, he should realize he shouldn't have done that and apologize afterwards. Then I would say sorry for that insult. Not that complicated, or is it. And I don't overreact this. If people think it wasn't intentional, then idk what is intentional at all. (This scene happened at the 2nd round of the map. At the 3rd round, he pit-manuevered me intentionally, sadly I didn't capture that.) A few weeks ago, he blocked me on a CoreMarker map as well. Sadly I didn't capture it (I wish, because you would see how he doesn't mind server rules while he is a MOD). But he was waiting for me with a rocket at the sewers part of the map, which is close to the finish. I thought he just stopped and gave up the map, going afk, whatever. Then he just shot me with the rocket, while he skipped checkpoints of the map. Shooting with rocket is part of that map, it wouldn't be a problem, but when he does it while skipping checkpoints and going to the end of the map, then it's considered as blocking. I don't make up stuff like that with no reason, it literally happened, even if he won't confess it. Then he pretended like nothing happened. Does he think I am stupid? So idk why, but it seems like he has some personal issues with me. Had the same problem with a previous admin, and they were used to be in the same clan in the past, interestingly. Which isn't right, because as a mod and as admin, you have to threat every person equally, yet it seems like people just forget this, and this wasn't the first case with this problem. As he took exceptions with Polish players, like Okan stated previously. You also saw what kind of messages he sent in private messages. Clearly not tolerable words from a moderator. No further comments. Conclusion: This person is just too egoistic and not mature enough to be a moderator, degrades players (calling me "not normal", and insult with racism addressed to Okan),he only sees benefits within the role he earned. I explained my problems about his driving style, and all he wrote is "ok mute" and "are you crazy", totally ignoring my point of view, and the only thing which matters to him is abusing his moderator role, block/ram me, then muting me for getting upset. (not mentioning that he insulted an another player in pm before.)

Your ingame name: V4POR The player's name who you are reporting: opposition (also known as MysteriousBirdcage42) Which server are you requesting this: MTA Race The reason why this player should get punished: blocking and insulting in foreign language The time has come to make this section active again, sadly. Things go fine on the MTA Race server nowadays, but there is a troublemaking player called "opposition", who keeps ramming me, and insulting in Serbian. This player is already known among some players and admins for insulting. He caught my attention, when he started to complain about maps being replayed. Then he said he will dedicate his game to screw my game up. And so he did, because from this message onward, he kept trying to ram me in different maps. Because he plays everyday, it gets really tiring to deal with this guy, and I started to lose my patience towards him. Yes, I know about the most broken rule on the servers, aka ramming being allowed, but attempting to ram me on every single map with non-ghostmode? Really? This went for a while, until an another occasion, when he started to insult me in Serbian. And you will see that he didn't really say the nicest things. As I said, I started to lose my patience, and today he hit the final nail in the coffin, by waiting for me and blocking me on a circuit type of map. So I had no other chance, but to let others know about how dirty this player is. I know these aren't the most clear proofs possible, but it's enough to prove two things: firstly, that he headed towards me which can be seen clearly. The second thing is that he was already more than 52 seconds behind me, as can be seen on the rankboard. Which means he didn't take checkpoints, waited for me at that spot to ran towards me, which equals with blocking. (Then of course he just left the server.) So, to anyone reading this, if you see a player from Serbia with Sebastian Vettel as profile picture, be careful, because: This guy can't race clearly, and will try to aim to ram you. He keeps complaining about maps being replayed, no matter which map is about to be replayed, if it's not a CoreMarker map. In a worse scenario, there is a chance that he will insult you in Serbian, with such messages as you can read on the screenshots. Sometimes he even blocks, as can be seen on the screenshots, although if others ram or hit him, he's complaining and calls others blockers.

Didn't you tell that you left green? https://youtu.be/O6wpps2N1-w

Looks like he didn't pay attention to your message. Anyways, maybe he wants to inform people who use forums instead of discord or people who are constantly visiting forums, for example Dziny.

Because Bluemap is way more detailed than Dynmap. Well, the chat is missing and rendering takes time, but the change is understandable. I like that the member who is constantly begging for changes, is complaining about a change.

Could someone translate this?

Because he thinks it's cool to link random songs, while nobody will listen to it.

I behave like an adult to him. I told him his mistakes thousand times, got marked as "hater" by him. And I didn't even insult him, unlike him + his replies sound like a 12 year old write it.

Go spend your money for unhealthy fast food and Coca-Cola, please (as you don't even drink water at all). I'm not a "hater" btw, you don't even deserve to be hated, all your mrgreen carrier is trolling and annoying others and thinking about yourself that you are the best.