This is how I see it: Short version (aka TL;DR): Agreed Long version: Personally I like glitches, they make trying to get into someones base more of a challenge, which makes it more interesting & exciting. It's starts to get boring when everyone has figured out how to make their base tnt proof... And if you can't get in a base, you can't claim and there pretty much no battle left whatsoever. I understand some people have problems with these glitches not being morally acceptable, but: Imagine The following 2 scenario's: scenario A: Imagine if the admins were to give out penalties to everyone who uses a glitch, this would become too much of a hassle. You have to define which are glitches & which are not, some might be considered a glitch by some, while the same one can be considered not a glitch by someone else. They'd have to keep track of players + it is very hard to get evidence. And what when a player accidently get stuck in a wall after enderpearling? He could walk or fall through the wall. Should he be penaltied? Can you prove it was an accident or not? No.. Annoying.. It would be too much of a waste of time for the admins. They got more important things to spend their time with (ACTUAL cheaters: people with cheat mods; performance issues; updates/patches/plugins; setting up safezones, building stuff; promoting; etc.) scenario B: - Than there is the other situation where everyone is allowed to use the same amount of 'tricks' as the next person: which is use any action which can give you a benefit (with the use of a vanilla minecraft), duping NOT included. This is a good setup. Everyone is pretty much equal, there should be no one with a disadvantage. The only disadvantage you can have is the lack of knowledge (of glitches): for instance not knowing what a boat glitch is, how to use it and how to protect your base against it. So this is pretty much like the lack of knowledge of non-glitches : they also give you a disadvantage in the game. (simple example: hitting someone while sprinting makes them knockback; so for instance you don't really need a knockback sword to knock someone of a mountain. If you don't know stuff like this you have a disadvantage => same goes with glitches) I like scenario B a lot more to be honest. It might not sound 100% moral, but at least it makes it fair for everyone. To give another example: in scenario A there can be a case where you KNOW for sure someone glitched in your base, but you can never get evidence ('cause it's so hard), which cause a lot of frustration, demotivation, hate, annoyances, etc... You could blame the lack of bukkit plugins & the developpers, you rage towards the the L4G admins, you could annoy , whine, rage, hate, bother jeb... But in the end you'll be sitting behind your pc waiting ... and nothing will happen. Except all those negative feelings will only grow bigger. But in scenario A you have certainty that everyone is equal & has the same abilities as long as they are willing to learn them. Soo, if we all accept this rule ("glitching is not against the rules -except duping-, go annoy jeb or a bukkit team member if you don't like it"), it will make all our gameplay experiences better. So go ahead and glitch into the bases of whoever attacked you & kick their asses! See glitches as something new you can learn (like all those things you can learn on youtube like farm designs etc.), see it as a challenge. Here's what I do: I test these things in single player. If you understand how a glitch works, you'll eventually learn how to make ANTI-glitch bases Sidenote: I do want to point out, that no one here should not take offence in what I say. I'm not attacking anyone personally. I'm only giving my opinion. I say this because I sensed a flame war starting to emerge with some of the people who have posted here & I don't want to be in the middle of it. Just giving my opinion. Happy minecrafting i like ur opinion and u make a point unlike every one else where there only argument is they will hide in their base well i just want people to realize its not a good thing and u shouldn't be exploiting it me and slave told awesomeo about a anti glitch plugin on a bukkit mod that makes it so u cant get glitched and u cant place boats anywhere.