Dr.Minky Posted July 3, 2012 Author Share Posted July 3, 2012 I'm willing to join Minky and the other guys for digging,gathering resources or building! (I'm not really creative when it comes to building though, 6.9/10 creative mind)I like how everyone puts themselves around 7 for building when pretty much none of them are.No offense, but let me put things into perspective here- I'd put the VoxelBox crew at around 8-8.5/10 (simply because I've seen some amazing structure in my time). But to consider the VoxelBox anything lower than 8 is heresy.! Most people would put them immediately at 10/10. I'd put my money down to say most people are 2-2.5 times lower than what they say they are. (once more, no offence.)Well if the guy wants to help, let him help, the good builders will become apparent very quickly anyway!(even more so if people would post an entry for the wall design already!) Quote Link to comment
Frizzy Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 I'm willing to join Minky and the other guys for digging,gathering resources or building! (I'm not really creative when it comes to building though, 6.9/10 creative mind)I like how everyone puts themselves around 7 for building when pretty much none of them are.No offense, but let me put things into perspective here- I'd put the VoxelBox crew at around 8-8.5/10 (simply because I've seen some amazing structure in my time). But to consider the VoxelBox anything lower than 8 is heresy.! Most people would put them immediately at 10/10. I'd put my money down to say most people are 2-2.5 times lower than what they say they are. (once more, no offence.)Well if the guy wants to help, let him help, the good builders will become apparent very quickly anyway!(even more so if people would post an entry for the wall design already!)I'd build a wall were it not for this damned contest taking up my time.also, WHY AM I STILL AWAKE!? Quote Link to comment
FishWithAHat Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 I'm willing to join Minky and the other guys for digging,gathering resources or building! (I'm not really creative when it comes to building though, 6.9/10 creative mind)I like how everyone puts themselves around 7 for building when pretty much none of them are.No offense, but let me put things into perspective here- I'd put the VoxelBox crew at around 8-8.5/10 (simply because I've seen some amazing structure in my time). But to consider the VoxelBox anything lower than 8 is heresy.! Most people would put them immediately at 10/10. I'd put my money down to say most people are 2-2.5 times lower than what they say they are. (once more, no offence.)Mine is below hell :I Quote Link to comment
kronk Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 I'm willing to join Minky and the other guys for digging,gathering resources or building! (I'm not really creative when it comes to building though, 6.9/10 creative mind)I like how everyone puts themselves around 7 for building when pretty much none of them are.No offense, but let me put things into perspective here- I'd put the VoxelBox crew at around 8-8.5/10 (simply because I've seen some amazing structure in my time). But to consider the VoxelBox anything lower than 8 is heresy.! Most people would put them immediately at 10/10. I'd put my money down to say most people are 2-2.5 times lower than what they say they are. (once more, no offence.)I'm just not much creative, but ofcourse if you tell me which way to do a thing i will do it. Maybe if you don't want i'll just help dig down and gather resources, that's okay Quote Link to comment
Frizzy Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 I'm willing to join Minky and the other guys for digging,gathering resources or building! (I'm not really creative when it comes to building though, 6.9/10 creative mind)I like how everyone puts themselves around 7 for building when pretty much none of them are.No offense, but let me put things into perspective here- I'd put the VoxelBox crew at around 8-8.5/10 (simply because I've seen some amazing structure in my time). But to consider the VoxelBox anything lower than 8 is heresy.! Most people would put them immediately at 10/10. I'd put my money down to say most people are 2-2.5 times lower than what they say they are. (once more, no offence.)I'm just not much creative, but ofcourse if you tell me which way to do a thing i will do it. Maybe if you don't want i'll just help dig down and gather resources, that's okayCreativity is what makes a good builder. Anyone can place blocks where they're told. It's those that design it who are the good builders. Quote Link to comment
Luke Nukem Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 I would play, but you know the situation with my tinternet Minky. Quote Link to comment
Guest Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Creativity is what makes a good builder. Anyone can place blocks where they're told. It's those that design it who are the good builders.Architecture FTW! Quote Link to comment
Frizzy Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Creativity is what makes a good builder. Anyone can place blocks where they're told. It's those that design it who are the good builders.Architecture FTW!We've found Box's job, guys! Quote Link to comment
Guest Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 We've found Box's job, guys!Shaddap! Quote Link to comment
awesomeo_5000 Posted July 6, 2012 Share Posted July 6, 2012 (edited) My random attempt at a wall. Pretty resource intense though, and THICK. Edited July 6, 2012 by awesomeo_5000 Quote Link to comment
jellyfish999111 Posted July 11, 2012 Share Posted July 11, 2012 i know this is propably a little late but i just read the post and thought id mention it. although im sceptical about digging out everything marking it into chunks will help... because from what iv heard you plan on 'warzoning' this arena . .. and like claims warzones work in chunks which means if you want people to be able to safely spectate ... and be able to fight you will need to safezone/warzone parts of the arena once your done, otherwise the spectators will murder each other faster than the constestants, ecspecially sinse theres no combat in a poeacful faction... either way count me in Quote Link to comment
Dr.Minky Posted July 11, 2012 Author Share Posted July 11, 2012 My random attempt at a wall. Pretty resource intense though, and THICK.Me gusta Quote Link to comment
Frizzy Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 To those who are going to complain about "religious symbolism".Yes, it is a cross. No, it does not have anything to do with christianity.1. It looks nicer than any other option.2. This was modeled with "medieval castle" in mind. They ALL had crosses. Dr.Minky 1 Quote Link to comment
Guest Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 This is my little design. I really though Awesomeo's design was good, but it needed something else. So, I incorporated it! Quote Link to comment
Dr.Minky Posted July 14, 2012 Author Share Posted July 14, 2012 Lookin' good fellas, keep em coming Feel free to improve and repost your designs tooBasically what I'll do is, a few days before the map resets I will take the one we think is best, get them to come on my server and then make a final plan of their wall - And change it slightly adding in ideas from some of the other good posts. Then that person will be the one leading the build of it Quote Link to comment
Whimplash Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Soon i'll have some time to build... Quote Link to comment
Dr.Minky Posted July 15, 2012 Author Share Posted July 15, 2012 Soon i'll have some time to build... GET ON IT BOI Quote Link to comment
Guest Posted July 15, 2012 Share Posted July 15, 2012 Do you have an idea of the dimensions of the inside base area? Not the walls included. Quote Link to comment
Dr.Minky Posted July 15, 2012 Author Share Posted July 15, 2012 Do you have an idea of the dimensions of the inside base area? Not the walls included.Not sure yet, we'll find out when the map resets (we can always add/remove land as appropriate to a certain extent anyway cause we're spesh) Quote Link to comment
Frizzy Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 Do you have an idea of the dimensions of the inside base area? Not the walls included.Not sure yet, we'll find out when the map resets (we can always add/remove land as appropriate to a certain extent anyway cause we're spesh)You really should consider how resource intensive the walls can be.Wezrine, your design is, in my opinion, extremely good. But, and I believe Minky is likely to disagree here, I find it far too resource intensive. We will likely need a good 25+ chunks. I'd say we'd have 2 of those walls per outer chunk, 4 on each corner. That's 14 chunks with 2 and 4 with 4. So we'd need that all about 36 times.I'd say one of those walls costs around 300 stone bricks, and that's being very generous. That means we'd need 1200 smooth stone. for one wall. Also meaning we'd need 150 coal per wall.By the end of it all we'd need 43,200 smooth stone and 5.400 pieces of coal.That will take a very very long time. Quote Link to comment
Dr.Minky Posted July 16, 2012 Author Share Posted July 16, 2012 (edited) Do you have an idea of the dimensions of the inside base area? Not the walls included.Not sure yet, we'll find out when the map resets (we can always add/remove land as appropriate to a certain extent anyway cause we're spesh)You really should consider how resource intensive the walls can be.Wezrine, your design is, in my opinion, extremely good. But, and I believe Minky is likely to disagree here, I find it far too resource intensive. We will likely need a good 25+ chunks. I'd say we'd have 2 of those walls per outer chunk, 4 on each corner. That's 14 chunks with 2 and 4 with 4. So we'd need that all about 36 times.I'd say one of those walls costs around 300 stone bricks, and that's being very generous. That means we'd need 1200 smooth stone. for one wall. Also meaning we'd need 150 coal per wall.By the end of it all we'd need 43,200 smooth stone and 5.400 pieces of coal.That will take a very very long time.Indeed it will son, but also keep in mind that this base is not just a temporary thing that will be deleted - this will be a permanent base that will likely be carried across maps (depending on how committed people are of course), so we don't have to be too cautious with our resources - Which we will have more than enough of, even after finishing the wall and center buildings If anything we want to use as much of our stuff as possible, as we would likely not be allowed to carry them across maps, Edited July 16, 2012 by Dr.Minky Quote Link to comment
Whimplash Posted July 16, 2012 Share Posted July 16, 2012 This is my first attempt. I would rate this Medium in resource usage. Medium being compared to other designs i might come up with.Visible are 1 corner piece and two straight pieces. Each piece designed to fit on a single chunk and to be repeatable. Chunks are marked with the wool. The number in brackets is the amount of smoothstone used for the smoothstone halfslabs.Corner Chunk Resources:Torches: 8Halfslab: 36Doubleslab: 67Stone Bricks: 322Halfslab Stone Bricks: 67Stone Stairs: 90Glass Panes: 52"Raw" Corner Chunk Resources:Coal: 2Stick: 2SmoothStone: 532 + (85)Glass: 19.5Straight Chunk 1 Resources:Torches: 8Halfslab: 32Doubleslab: 30Stone Bricks: 212Halfslab Stone Bricks: 46Stone Stairs: 72"Raw" Straight Chunk 1 Resources:Coal: 2Stick: 2SmoothStone: 388 + (46)Straight Chunk 2 Resources:Torches: 4Halfslab: 32Doubleslab: 54Stone Bricks: 204Halfslab Stone Bricks: 210Stone Stairs: 80"Raw" Straight Chunk 2 Resources:Coal: 1Stick: 1SmoothStone: 370 + (70)Say you got a 5x5 chunk area, then you would have 4 corner chunks and 12 straight chunks. We'd use 8x type 1 and 4x type 2. Let's speed up the math and go straight to the results:Coal: 28Stick: 28SmoothStone: 6712 + (988) -> 6712 + 990 = 7702Glass: 78For the Smooth Stone we'd need 963 Coal and for the Glass we'd need 10.Seeing as there is "only" on average 136 coal per chunk it would be better to search for alternative furnace fuels. Best would either be lava, blazerods or planks. Lava for being OP and the other two for being "renewable".Making the grand total:Coal: 28Wood: 4Cobblestone: 7702Sand: 78Fuel: (only need one of these)80~100 Lava buckets (given how effecient we would be in using them)650 Blaze rods980 coal ore.1310 Wood blocks.On hindsight: Maybe i need to put my design on a diet.PS. If you want to watch the design just check the dynmap somewhere northeast, the grass/wool grid is very easy to spot. Sacrevy, Dr.Minky and Wessel Kompier 3 Quote Link to comment
Dr.Minky Posted July 17, 2012 Author Share Posted July 17, 2012 (edited) That is one sexy man wall WhimplashWhere do I sign up?Just read both this --> and this thread here, then just say youre interested and maybe build a wall / just some ideas for the wall and upload it here. II've said lots of times before but I'll say it again just for clarity - On these first stages as many people as possible will get involved, so accepting people will be pretty lose, and after these stages me and Awesomeo will filter people out who we think would make good permanent members of the faction - Consider the first part like a trial or something :> Edited July 17, 2012 by Dr.Minky Quote Link to comment
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