Sadistic! Scandalous! Outrageous! The American Corruption...

[BlueYoshi97]

In this topic, you can say what you thought when you saw that video^, and then maybe start a whole dandy discussion about US troops, war and such while you are at it.

I must say I hope this doesn't happen on more occasions...

[Notte]

I saw this on the news.... FUCK THE US! no offence Toaster

[Mayco]

I must say I hope this doesn't happen on more occasions...

It does.

Though I would've said "shit happens", it's clear the gunner enjoys killing people. It's more like a game to him, and that's clearly a sign of unhealthy state of mind (or just insanity). This might be the result of rushed recruitment, or just a twisted mind. Ofcourse war changes people in ways like this, but it's definately not a good excuse. Soldiers should be recruited to be able to handle situations like this, because some of them clearly can't. In my opinion they should screen mental health every so often when a soldier has been on a battlefield for a certain time.

Ofcourse me ranting here on an internet forum won't change shit, but they really should start screening the mental state of military personnel on the battlefield (and ofcourse before and during recruitment). I also think this soldier should be prosecuted, but that won't happen.

Also Notte, it's not just the US, it happens everywhere.

[Notte]

I must say I hope this doesn't happen on more occasions...

It does.

Though I would've said "shit happens", it's clear the gunner enjoys killing people. It's more like a game to him, and that's clearly a sign of unhealthy state of mind (or just insanity). This might be the result of rushed recruitment, or just a twisted mind. Ofcourse war changes people in ways like this, but it's definately not a good excuse. Soldiers should be recruited to be able to handle situations like this, because some of them clearly can't. In my opinion they should screen mental health every so often when a soldier has been on a battlefield for a certain time.

Ofcourse me ranting here on an internet forum won't change shit, but they really should start screening the mental state of military personnel on the battlefield (and ofcourse before and during recruitment). I also think this soldier should be prosecuted, but that won't happen.

Also Notte, it's not just the US, it happens everywhere.

US army give over 50 mill $ every year to game Developers... now we see why. He think it's MW2!

Edited April 6, 2010 by Notte

[Mayco]

US army give over 50 mill $ every year to game Developers... now we see why. This is like MW2!

Never heard of that, except for America's Army 3. Which is basically an interactive propaganda tool.

[Danni]

Not only the US who does this, also the NATO forces in Afghanistan..

It happened to the Danish soldiers aswell, they killed a girl in some village in the Helmand-province, some months back.

Shit happens, though civilian casualties shouldn't happen..

[Mayco]

Shit happens, though civilian casualties shouldn't happen..

Those are basically my thoughts too (ofcourse it's easy to say that from behind a computer in a well protected, stable country). Civilian casualties CAN and WILL happen, but the worst part here is, is that the soldier enjoys killing those people.

[The Lazy Peon]

There are im sure many examples where people kill mass numbers of civilions that never get reported. I think it's not just an example of people enjoying killing- but theres such a change from normal modern day life to war that some people can't handle it... and literaly go crazy.

Film directors have hinted at it for ages, Full Metal Jacket and Band Of Brothers are examples

But yeah- civilian casualties arn't necessary but do unfortuneatly happen.

[Notte]

Games get more and more real, and war become more and more like a game... Not good

Edited April 6, 2010 by Notte

[Dusty]

It's a bullshit war, and this is just pathetic. They're taking lives to entertain themselves, not to protect others.

[Mayco]

Some people apparently get a kick out of violence. In the middle ages even the most civilized places had stuff like a guillotine. When somebody got executed, the entire city went out to see it happen as a form of entertainment. Nowadays, this is (luckily) not the case. It's replaced by TV violence, which is not the same. This COULD be a reason for things like this, though if that's the case, the guy still has severe mental issues.

[Clavus]

I wouldn't say the soldiers here in the video have a mental disorder like Mayco said (humour is one way soldiers maintain their sanity), but they clearly were sloppy identifying their targets. They were not aware that they were engaging civilians, but they're all to blame for not being aware.

[Mayco]

I wouldn't say the soldiers here in the video have a mental disorder like Mayco said (humour is one way soldiers maintain their sanity), but they clearly were sloppy identifying their targets. They were not aware that they were engaging civilians, but they're all to blame for not being aware.

You still ignore the fact that he enjoyed shooting them, and the request for medical attention for the wounded girl was a hard "no".

As I said, if he didn't enjoy it so much, I would've been more like "It sucks, but shit happens", because civilian casualties are inevitable in a war.

[TheGreenGrasshopper]

you guys may or may not know, but shooting civilians and medics is strictly forbidden and will lead to severe punishment.

That said, what the f were they thinking shooting random people. They can say that terrorists are bad but atleast they don't patrol our skies shooting everything that looks a little suspicious.

[EmRA]

What should he say then? I think "GOT ONE!" or something smilar is more likely than "OH MAN I JUST KILLED A MAN I HOPE HIS FAMILY WONT MIND THIS WILL HURT MY FEELINGS "

[stalker-dude(nl)]

What should he say then? I think "GOT ONE!" or something smilar is more likely than "OH MAN I JUST KILLED A MAN I HOPE HIS FAMILY WONT MIND THIS WILL HURT MY FEELINGS "

Yea that's true.

But the way they are acting in that video is just insane

War is getting really easy with somekind of helicopter and shooting people without they can hit you. There's no real courage that you need for that.

[Notte]

"I got one, right through the windscreen. Ha-ha."

The military have word for things like that. "Tango Down" (or something simular)

And: " Ha-ha, I think he ran over one og them"

ITS JUST INSANE!

[Danni]

If the soldiers are found guilty of killing civilians, juts as they did, they will come in a military court and face death penalty.

[Dusty]

What should he say then? I think "GOT ONE!" or something smilar is more likely than "OH MAN I JUST KILLED A MAN I HOPE HIS FAMILY WONT MIND THIS WILL HURT MY FEELINGS "

You're ignoring the fact they enjoy killing.

[Lemon!]

Well, poor people in IRAQ, but it happens all the time in there...Not actually anything big...

[FjordMonkey]

Well, poor people in IRAQ, but it happens all the time in there...Not actually anything big...

well it was'nt excactly iraqis more like some reporters from reuters....

[Lemon!]

Ouch.

[EmRA]

What should he say then? I think "GOT ONE!" or something smilar is more likely than "OH MAN I JUST KILLED A MAN I HOPE HIS FAMILY WONT MIND THIS WILL HURT MY FEELINGS "

You're ignoring the fact they enjoy killing.

Thats what I meant, just because they sound like they enjoy it doesnt mean they do.

Even when they are yelling "Come oon let us engage" like kids wanting candy.

Notte, real world =/= modern warfare/bad company

[pointpoint]

I saw this video in French TV , and I said , all french was afraid about that , her comportment ....

American should go out of video games...

violence.....

[Dusty]

Can we stop blaming video games? Games like Modern Warfare are based on things like this, not the other way around.