Dr.Minky

The Janitors would all be in one big peaceful faction in a corner of the map, where they can build epic stuff and do what the normal peaceful factions do. And this wouldn't be a faction JUST for the janitors, like in the gods, as at the end of the day it would just be a place for those guys to enjoy themselves with friends as anyone else on the server does. People would be recruited to the faction exactly as they would in any other faction: The status of Janitor and being in the faction wouldn't be linked at all recruitment wise

They wouldn't. Janitors would be carefully considered, its not like any old person could just nominate themselves and become it, the point is that this would be much easier to handle than carefully selecting admins which is an extremely lengthy and picky process.

I'm not sure if thats an insult or a compliment Also CHECK THE THREAD!

Sounds good Minky, I always like hearing your input. Who doesn't! dont answer that Theads up

Awesomeo and I have made a combined effort to come up with a system to both improve the server in quality, longevity, and moderation. Feel free to post your support or criticism, and if you agree then please make that clear in this thread because often community ideas like this can just be straight up ignored - TC need to know if it is a good idea. We propose a peaceful faction containing 'Janitors'. These would not be 'admins' as such, but more maintenance guys for the server. They would have a set area to build in, where they can create nice things and remain undisturbed by other players. It could still contain players which AREN'T moderators at the judgement of the faction leader to build things, just to keep the game fun for them to play - no one would do it if they were just sitting there on their own. They would be responsible for a number of things: - Tidying up areas A lot of bases are part claimed from factions that never play anymore, and for someone to remove it would take too long. Instead, have a team of people with access to world edit that can simply cut a base out, or those stupid one high towers people build to get up to sky bases, and generally freshen up the area (replace grass with the brush tool, replant forests, repair tnt griefing etc). This is one of the main advantages as within the first week the recent map was griefed to poop. - Creating server competitions. The Spleef tournament was great fun, and everyone asked for more events like this. However it's rather time consuming to organise. Instead of leaving up to a global admin with lots of things to worry about, you could transfer organisation of events to the janitor team. They would come up with an idea, propose it to an admin and then go about creating the arena and organising it. - Quick and instant reporting Though janitors won't have an administration role, they would be able to check out accused hackers almost instantly and be able to report things straight to the actual admins so they can be dealt with. Drastically increasing the amount of bans given to hackers that are otherwise 'flying under the radar'. This has been the focus of many minecrafters dispair, as whilst x-rayers are dealt with, people that use more discrete hacks are running riot. - Adding in teleporters There is a huge map, but few people make use of it because it's just so mundane sitting in a boat for 20 hours only to get killed by a skeleton when you reach your dream island. If were these janitors, people could 'buy' a teleporter in their base that's linked to one at spawn (not sure if its possible with the current plug in, but this may be easily implemented with the upcoming developer support) and the janitor can go and install it. - Additional Green Coin Shop Items With a team of janitors, it could be possible to charge a set amount to clear an X*Y area, or as aforementioned install custom teleporters. These items would cost a considerable amount, and would ideally be aimed at the larger factions to stimulate donations. This would all combine to increase the longevity and enjoyment of the maps, drastically reduce the amount of hackers without requiring to hire more admins, bring in more donations, add some more depth to the server and allow for more epic base construction and set a consistency to the server. For example it could be the case we have a new map every three months on the first day of the month. That way people know what to expect, and how long to spend on their base, instead of the uncertainty there is at the minute. I see NO reason as to why this idea shouldn't be implemented, given with a few changes to the idea - The server needs something like this.

I've came up with an idea, I see no reason as to why it shouldn't be implemented with a few tweaks either. Written out a thread for it too, but I'm running it over with Awesomeo first. Expect it up by tonight.

Give me a bit to think and I'll come up with a happy medium: I'm good with ideas

Lets count the admins 1. Corby (often busy) 2. Clavus (but doesnt really play) 3. Darkstar (but doesnt really play) 4. ..... The point is you need admins that are active that can deal with all the accusations in game quickly and swiftly, instead of the arduous complaining on the forums and hacker reporting system. I have NEVER seen a server thats run like L4G is, and considering the huge amount of players and potential donators I'd say its worth investing some time into actually bothering to find admins instead of just being happy with it being mediocre.

IMO griefing normally is fine, its part of the game, its just a sign that you've not done a very good job of making your fortress. If people are doing that shit though then something seriously needs to be done And I hate to be the person to keep ringing the same old bells but the server NEEDS more admins. I understand that Clavus thinks that with the Xray plugin its cut out the need for more admins anyway, but thats not really true on a server like this: which is obvious from what people are saying. I'm not willing to apply for admin anymore, but one of you guys should. At the very LEAST hire some bloody moderators with restricted privileges instead of admins because the server its kinda run retardedly.

Happy Birthday Ywa!

Yeah.. With a peaceful faction we dont have to worry about losing power and crap like that, so we can play more casually..

We're gonna be doing something interesting, different to what we've done before. Ill post something in a bit maybe, not really thought about it TOO much yet

SHIT SON! No, its the holidays for the ProgialSons crew, so we have like 3 months of spare time. We're also buying the peaceful faction park, and I'll be leading it the old way of giving people tasks to do, instead of letting people do whatever, cause that doesnt seem to work and people seem to find it less fun. I've been swamped with tons of work, not just school work, and when running a faction like I have before it means I need to come on every other day to give people things to do and shit or else they end up leaving, with a peaceful faction we can just play and do what we want! And we can hide the chat now too.. Ive had enough of a break from MineCraft to be able to enjoy it again,

Loubatron - "ProdiGuild" Thats right bitches, we're comin' back

I wasn't aware that anyone was against a map reset..? No one was against the map reset. The only thing that wasn't sure was the date. What's the point of this exactly?

I'll second that.

Yeah yeah.. If you think he'd be interested, send him my way!

Never call MineCraft an FPS ever again But yes, the joining system could work like in MineCraft, where you wait till the server is full then start the game and run it in cycles. Music could be added I guess, optionally, doesnt take too long to write a few songs.. Coding would be the trickiest part, yes, hence why I wanted to try and find a coder before even bothering to start.. The director thing wouldn't really be too bad, just have it so for example every X amount of time, depending on conditions of the player e.g: Infection, Health, Items equiped, they have a probability of recieving A B or C, or nothing, something like that I think trying to make it as survival based as possible would be good, and make the combat tricky. More like you're trying to assassinate people instead of just run in and kill people. With the weapons available it'd be tricky to be mainly combat based anyway, since its mainly melee and short range weapons, so a focus on traps and tracking and such would be a good way to do it (if it were made to be rewarding instead of tedious) Also, I'm currently getting to grips with using UDK for more professional in game sound design, after I'm happy with what I'm making I'm gonna shift over to starting to work with SDK so I could make the sound design quality really good as it would need to be.. Honestly, as far as I know the only people who would be able to code it here are Clavus, Ywa and Necrossin, who likely wouldn't want to do something like this anyway. Likely hood is I'll have to network and try and find more coders elsewhere, which will be tricky

Minecraft 1.0: November 18, 2011. Minecraft 1.1: January 12, 2012. (1 month, 25 days) Minecraft 1.2: March 1, 2012. (1 month, 20 days) Today: May 23, 2012. (2 month, 23 days) Update should be any time now

Left4Green is definitely still the most feared faction on the server