This is why i kick anyone who is afk or just being a douche and not spawning at the start of the round, and I tell people to back away from the zombie spawn or face the consequences (i.e. me freezing them for a short period of time, so that the zombies can get a bit of revenge on the spawn camping douchebags (You can tell my fondness for them) I don't get why we have to leave the spawn campers be, it's a horrible way to start on IW if you're new Well i do admit spawn camping is lame, although if you have a good behemoth all those spawn campers die in a matter of seconds, if i see zombies getting raped at there spawn to the point where they cant even fight back then i start doing what error does which is freezing them and if they continue to ignore me after that then i might slap them with 0.1 damage, not to hurt them but to show them i mean business. Although i dont kick people for spawn camping, the worst is when people spawn camp with turrets, it makes it literally impossible to get out of spawn. You have apparently never seen a real spawncamp. Not a real "Kill the behemoth before he can even aim at the humans, and way before he can press Shoot" kind of spawncamp is the annoying part.. 17 well placed humans vs. 2 zombies, no admins. Now that is spawncamping. I've experienced it several times (I'm mostly the behemoth or a zombie in that situation, because i hate farmining, and that kind of spawncapming is basicly the same, so i suicide when i see it) and its really annoying, because even if 5 good players suicide to help zombies, they're still going to get owned if the humans know what they are doing, now THAT is a problem. Admins should hit them hard in those situations, and give 15 minutes ban's or something, just to show how serious it is. It's the "ultimate spawncamp" and spawncamping is strightly against the rules, If admins should give away [number of minutes] bans, it should be to heavy spawncampers... ********************************************** This post seems a bit negative, so I thought I should make it a bit nicer.. SMILIES! ********************************************** BTW, reply to the actual thread.. They dont have unlimited mines in IW Spawn camping isnt really against the rules, Clavus has told us to leave them be, "It's their fault if they get themselves killed" But I don't like it one bit. We do freeze people so that they probably end up getting killed by zombies, at which point I personally laugh, because it serves them right.